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 Post subject: False accusations
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:01 pm 
Buyer Darrel Harley (tazman27103)

is contacting the online bidders and telling them to be aware of sellers
he's telling them they wont get their items, its cost me 3 sales totaling $700.00
so far


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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:03 pm 
I know exactly what you mean
he emailed me before your auctions were up and tried to tell
to avoid you


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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:04 pm 
I told him to mind his own business


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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:33 am 
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What's he trying to do? Eliminate the competition? Sounds to me like this guy is a candidate for the infamous Black List!

I am also curious like Steve Johnson is. How does this bidder obtain the contact information? That should not be available.

Lyn Liechty, Auctioneer
http://www.arealauction.com


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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:40 am 
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For those that are not so "internet savvy", you are witnessing another form of forum spam, trolls, possible phishing or other activity that may have questionable motives. In the auction business, we are familiar with the saying, "Buyer Beware"... well, when on the internet (no matter what site you're visiting), you should also view anything with a "cautious eye". Keep in mind, Con-artists are often quite good at what they do for a living, too.

Now you might wonder what is sending up Red Flags, for me to make such accusations... First, it's because I'm very cautious about those that pop in with anything that might seem the tiniest bit questionable. So, I did a little checking...

BC Ledger is running three individual AuctionZip Online Auctions for three individual coins (1st Red Flag). He doesn't have any information about his self or a website link in his AZ Auctioneer Listing, but indicates that he's in Florida. His Online Auction shows a Florida License number, so I check the Florida Auctioneer Licensing website and the license number in INVALID. Here's the link:
https://www.myfloridalicense.com/wl11.asp?mode=2&search=LicNbr&SID=&brd=&typ=
(If you have problems with the link, go to http://www.myfloridalicense.com/dbpr/pro/auct/index.html & click on "Verify A License", then search for license number 2459.)

So, then I decide to see who Kyle Matthew is and noticed that he is also signed up with AZ as an Auctioneer in MY HOME STATE of TEXAS. Again, NO information about his self or a website link in his AZ Auctioneer Listing, except for an address in the Fort Worth area. So, I checked the Texas Auctioneer Licensing search and there is no one with that name holding an Auctioneer license in the State of Texas.

So, this may be the SAME PERSON (notice how the message breaks are similar in the two posts?) or two guys working together. I would NOT recommend for anyone to bid on the coins listed by BC Ledger... it's probably a SCAM and you are probably just going to lose your money. I.E. BUYER BEWARE!

Now, hopefully Steve is going to see this and delete these two fakes from the AZ Auctioneer Listings. I'll be adding these two names and their addresses to my "watch list", just in case they happen to be in Texas and show up at one of my auctions... even though the names and addresses may be fakes and I always require a Driver's License to register, to keep those Red Flags to a minimum.

Jim Ford
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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 10:59 am 
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I thought you had to provide an auctioneer licence number when registering on AZ. I assume there must not be a verification process to ensure those registering as an auctioneer are legit.


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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:05 pm 
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Richard,

Some states have no licensing requirements for auctioneers.

Jim,

Rather than hoping Steve Johnson reads your post, why don't you call him or email him with your concerns.

Lyn Liechty, Auctioneer
http://www.arealauction.com


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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:13 am 
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Hi James,

Here is some information you might find very useful regarding this alleged auctioneer.

Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation ENFORCEMENT.
Investigator Auctioneer Enforcement, Dee Warren (512) 539-5630 or Greg Dodson (512) 539-5628

Florida Auctioneers Board. Don't waste your time contacting http://www.MyFloridaLicense.com!
1. Renese Jones 850-922-5012
2. Investigations 561-650-6887
3. Paul Bartolo FL. Investigations Analyst 850-488-6603 (This is the guy you want to speak with.)

Let me know how it goes.

Tom

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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:16 am 
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Lynn
Both, Texas & Florida are licensed states.
However, I doubt that Steve has time to check the numbers that folks enter, so he relies on us to help police these folks. I was going to also send him an email, but it appears that he has read my post and I'm sure he'll take care of it.

Tom
In Texas, there is no licensing for Internet Auctioneering. So, unless the guy posts a license number or something to indicate that he is actually a Texas auctioneer, there isn't much they'll be able to do about it... after all, there's a lot of folks doing online auctions and think they're an auctioneer.

Right now, I've been REALLY busy lately (YIPPEE!)... and getting ready to go right now, for TWO MORE appointments! (Hopefully, things will continue like it has for the last few weeks... it sure has been slow in our area.) In any case, I'll look into possibly reporting the Florida guy later... unless someone wishes to do so and report back here, first.

Jim Ford
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Professional Auction Services for Houston & the Great State of Texas
Personal Estate - Business Liquidation - Real Estate - Charity Fundraisers

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 Post subject: Re: False accusations
PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:06 pm 
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These two "auctioneers" have been deleted. These 2 accounts (one in FL and one in TX) were logging in via the same IP... had selected the same password... and were bidding on each others merchandise. Jim... thank you for the heads up.

Steve

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